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**Karen L** · 05-11-2011, 10:41 PM

Benjamin here are the pictures I posted in Le Neruo-Fil

The question was asked in the thread how is DNM learned without taking a class. It was also expressed that DNM looks similar to Jones Strain Counterstrain.

I would suggest the difference is addressed by Diane's Interactor-Operator Essay.

My post was to explain that DNM does not treat the nerves roughly.

DNM is about finesse and waits for characteristics of correction: Warming, ease, softening, surprise.

Diane is the copyright holder of the dissection, and balloon technique pictures.

Thank you Benjamin.

**Diane** · 05-11-2011, 11:22 PM

Thanks for pulling that together Karen.
I'd like to add that I used SCS (which I learned out of books) for years before I ever figured out what I really thought was going on with it, or what I was likely doing to the neural tree using it. It's a good manual treatment system I think (for an operator model), but kinda vague and very tissue-based in the theory department. I adapted some of it to DNM and to my own body (size and arm length and stamina), made up lots of new positions to treat people in, added a lot of skin stretch, and an interactive explanatory model.

**benjamim fontes** · 06-11-2011, 12:01 AM

Karen,
thanks for putting it here together as I ask you.
Thank You very much.
Diane,
Interesting to see some similarities between DNM and SCS. I think there is individual thought but too colective thought. A good example of colective thought is somasimple. We all manual therapists sharing a lot of insights.
North Portugal
Benjamim Fontes

05-11-2011, 11:22 PM	#2
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,676 Thanks: 1,490 Thanked 3,194 Times in 1,570 Posts	Thanks for pulling that together Karen. I'd like to add that I used SCS (which I learned out of books) for years before I ever figured out what I really thought was going on with it, or what I was likely doing to the neural tree using it. It's a good manual treatment system I think (for an operator model), but kinda vague and very tissue-based in the theory department. I adapted some of it to DNM and to my own body (size and arm length and stamina), made up lots of new positions to treat people in, added a lot of skin stretch, and an interactive explanatory model. __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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06-11-2011, 12:01 AM	#3
benjamim fontes SomaSimpler Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 129 Thanks: 80 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Karen, thanks for putting it here together as I ask you. Thank You very much. Diane, Interesting to see some similarities between DNM and SCS. I think there is individual thought but too colective thought. A good example of colective thought is somasimple. We all manual therapists sharing a lot of insights. North Portugal Benjamim Fontes