Recommended by a colleague

OLauraLee · 02-08-2011, 08:47 PM

Hi Everyone,
I've been practicing since 2003 and this is my first time mentoring a student. I volunteered to do this thinking it would be a great experience and it is, however I find myself more than ever searching for good resources and current literature so that I help lead her down the right path. I'm very pleased with some of the information I've found here on this site and look forward to sharing with you all. LL

Jackson · 02-08-2011, 09:02 PM

Welcome! You will be able to find lots to learn about here. I'd suggest recommending your student join as well as this could be great for critical thinking clinically with your experience in addition to you both researching on SS.

Nick

joebrence9 · 02-08-2011, 09:45 PM

Welcome OLauraLee,
There is a wealth of information on this site for you and your student. I currently have a student myself, and find frustrations with attempting to comply with information they are expected to know to pass a board exam vs. that which has been documented in the literature. I really make sure my students are able to understand pain and the treatment of pain.

If I can, I would like to recommend you guys both order and read Painful Yarns by Lorimer Moselely and progress to Explain Pain by Moselely and David Butler. Both are great resources in the treatment of pain in humans.

**Bas Asselbergs** · 02-08-2011, 10:54 PM

Welcome LauraLee. Happy to see another Canuck here!
Yes, students are a great way to stimulate one's own knowledge basis or challenges one's own assumptions!

Would you consider using the Welcome Forum to introduce yourself in a bit more depth? Not required of course, but it would make communication a bit easier for me.

have fun here!

**Diane** · 02-08-2011, 11:25 PM

Hi OLauraLee,
Welcome to SomaSimple!

(Bas, this thread is already in Welcome Forum - maybe it got moved here.)

**Barrett Dorko** · 03-08-2011, 12:12 AM

Welcome LL.

Have you figured out what they're teaching the students about pain these days?

**zimney3pt** · 03-08-2011, 01:52 AM

LauraLee , welcome to SS.
Glad to see your initiative to give your student a valuable experience, not alI CI's do. After taking the APTA's CI credentialing courses I realized how much more I could do to give PT students a better clinical experience.

Kory Zimney, PT, DPT
Sent from my BlackBerry 9330 using Tapatalk

OLauraLee · 03-08-2011, 02:27 PM

Thank you everyone. I feel very welcomed and I'll definitely recommend my student join in. She's very keen and will have a lot to offer our profession.

A little more about me...... Graduated from Queen's University in 2003 and have worked in mainly outpatient ortho facilities including a short time in the US. Completed a variety of post graduated courses and have become credentialled in MDT. Avid runner, new mommy and pro physiotherapy.

I haven't read Painful Yarns by Lorimer Moselely but I have read Explain Pain by Moselely and David Butler. I really liked Jason Silvernail's "Understanding Mechanical Pain" and Bahram Jam's "When a back goes out" and "The Pain Truth". Now if only my student was getting the same info. Unfortunately, she told me she had 3 pain lectures and that it discussed the Gate Control theory, a little about fear avoidance and discussed treating pain. She admitted it was very disappointing and that she was eager to learn more from this placement.

Thanks again all. LL

**Diane** · 03-08-2011, 02:40 PM

Hi LL,
Again, welcome to SS.
Here is a link to Forum Moderators' Consensus On Pain. (In case you haven't happened upon it yet.

)

OLauraLee · 03-08-2011, 02:43 PM

Thank you Diane. I did stumble upon it. Nice summary.

02-08-2011, 08:47 PM	#1
OLauraLee Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Recommended by a colleague Hi Everyone, I've been practicing since 2003 and this is my first time mentoring a student. I volunteered to do this thinking it would be a great experience and it is, however I find myself more than ever searching for good resources and current literature so that I help lead her down the right path. I'm very pleased with some of the information I've found here on this site and look forward to sharing with you all. LL

02-08-2011, 09:02 PM	#2
Jackson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Jackson, TN Posts: 123 Thanks: 42 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Welcome! You will be able to find lots to learn about here. I'd suggest recommending your student join as well as this could be great for critical thinking clinically with your experience in addition to you both researching on SS. Nick __________________ Nick Nordtvedt, PT, DPT, Cert MDT You will never succeed if you are not prepared to fail.

02-08-2011, 09:45 PM	#3
joebrence9 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 435 Thanks: 148 Thanked 229 Times in 104 Posts	Welcome OLauraLee, There is a wealth of information on this site for you and your student. I currently have a student myself, and find frustrations with attempting to comply with information they are expected to know to pass a board exam vs. that which has been documented in the literature. I really make sure my students are able to understand pain and the treatment of pain. If I can, I would like to recommend you guys both order and read Painful Yarns by Lorimer Moselely and progress to Explain Pain by Moselely and David Butler. Both are great resources in the treatment of pain in humans. __________________ Joseph Brence, DPT "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein Blog: www.forwardthinkingpt.com

02-08-2011, 10:54 PM	#4
Bas Asselbergs Physiotherapist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Age: 61 Posts: 3,693 Thanks: 834 Thanked 484 Times in 233 Posts	Welcome LauraLee. Happy to see another Canuck here! Yes, students are a great way to stimulate one's own knowledge basis or challenges one's own assumptions! Would you consider using the Welcome Forum to introduce yourself in a bit more depth? Not required of course, but it would make communication a bit easier for me. have fun here! __________________ We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are - Anais Nin Pain is a conscious correlate of the implicit perception of threat to body tissue - Lorimer Moseley

02-08-2011, 11:25 PM	#5
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,664 Thanks: 1,484 Thanked 3,179 Times in 1,562 Posts	Hi OLauraLee, Welcome to SomaSimple! (Bas, this thread is already in Welcome Forum - maybe it got moved here.) __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

03-08-2011, 12:12 AM	#6
Barrett Dorko Writer and Clinician Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Age: 61 Posts: 12,642 Thanks: 605 Thanked 1,452 Times in 856 Posts	Welcome LL. Have you figured out what they're teaching the students about pain these days? __________________ Barrett L. Dorko P.T. www.barrettdorko.com

03-08-2011, 01:52 AM	#7
zimney3pt life long learner, clinician, and instructor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sioux City, IA Age: 43 Posts: 1,902 Thanks: 149 Thanked 675 Times in 265 Posts	LauraLee , welcome to SS. Glad to see your initiative to give your student a valuable experience, not alI CI's do. After taking the APTA's CI credentialing courses I realized how much more I could do to give PT students a better clinical experience. Kory Zimney, PT, DPT Sent from my BlackBerry 9330 using Tapatalk __________________ Kory Zimney, PT, DPT http://koryzimney.blogspot.com "Study principles not methods, a mind that can grasp principles will create its own methods." - Gill "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei

03-08-2011, 02:27 PM	#8
OLauraLee Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you everyone. I feel very welcomed and I'll definitely recommend my student join in. She's very keen and will have a lot to offer our profession. A little more about me...... Graduated from Queen's University in 2003 and have worked in mainly outpatient ortho facilities including a short time in the US. Completed a variety of post graduated courses and have become credentialled in MDT. Avid runner, new mommy and pro physiotherapy. I haven't read Painful Yarns by Lorimer Moselely but I have read Explain Pain by Moselely and David Butler. I really liked Jason Silvernail's "Understanding Mechanical Pain" and Bahram Jam's "When a back goes out" and "The Pain Truth". Now if only my student was getting the same info. Unfortunately, she told me she had 3 pain lectures and that it discussed the Gate Control theory, a little about fear avoidance and discussed treating pain. She admitted it was very disappointing and that she was eager to learn more from this placement. Thanks again all. LL

03-08-2011, 02:40 PM	#9
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,664 Thanks: 1,484 Thanked 3,179 Times in 1,562 Posts	Hi LL, Again, welcome to SS. Here is a link to Forum Moderators' Consensus On Pain. (In case you haven't happened upon it yet. ) __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

03-08-2011, 02:43 PM	#10
OLauraLee Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you Diane. I did stumble upon it. Nice summary.

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