[Visual] CIRPD Utilizing Science, Technology and the Arts to Transform Pain

**byronselorme** · 20-10-2011, 10:01 PM

I listened to this lecture yesterday by Diane Gromala PhD. A member of the Transforming Pain Research group Simon Fraser University in Surrey, BC.
As far as presentation quality I think there is quite a bit of room for improvment, but Diane presents some very interesting concepts for treating pain.

A sufferer herself for 25 years she address some legitimate points that may be helpful with the use of Robotics, Virtual Reality, and Social Media.

She mentions in the presentation that Mindfulness Meditation has tons of research supporting how effective it is with Pain. I haven't looked exhaustively but I didn't think there was that much.

Anyway, this was interesting and worth my time reviewing it.

Utilizing Science, Technology and the Arts to Transform Pain

**Diane** · 20-10-2011, 11:35 PM

There is quite a bit from the Jon Kabat-Zinn "school".

**Karen L** · 21-10-2011, 07:47 AM

Diane Gromala and Neil Pearson were two of three keynote speakers at the BC pain Summit in June. I believe pain BC has them archived. I am very thankful the CIRPD and Pain BC are as active as they are right now and I have been enjoying the presentations they have offered.

NOI Group has in interesting idea with their walking video and I believe Diane Gromala talks about snow world (U Washington) which I think has tremendous potential applications in neuroplasticity and pain.

Karen

**byronselorme** · 21-10-2011, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diane

There is quite a bit from the Jon Kabat-Zinn "school".

I've known of Jon for awhile now. Is there anyone else producing work in this field?

Why the "scare" quotes?

I saw Jon speak in a Yoga video a few years back and he struck me as evangelical about it. I have to admit I haven't been motivated to research him more since then.

I know the last CIRPD talk basically focused around his 2 books.

Karen, I agree completely. I am meeting with Neil in a few weeks when he is in the area. I also found what Diane G had to say to be very good.

What is it with BC now?

**Diane** · 21-10-2011, 06:17 PM

Hi Byron,
Those weren't meant to be scare quotes - sorry.. I wanted to set off the word as being my interpretation of his set of research and teaching. Maybe I should have used asterisks, like this; *school(?)*

All I know about him is from his online videos. I know he doesn't do peace/love/light/energy/cheery/butterflies&rainbows stuff, nor does he do I'm so guru-wizardy-and-powerful-you-will-become-mesmerized-by-my-teachings either. He talks plain sense. At least to my ear.

Jon Newman · 22-10-2011, 03:10 AM

Byron,

You might be interested in the following essay. In fact, you may have already read given your interests. Anyway, check out Social Media Is The New Authentic.

**Diane** · 22-10-2011, 03:17 AM

Byron, you might find this paper interesting. (Back pain, yoga, etc.)

**byronselorme** · 22-10-2011, 06:03 PM

Hi Jon,

No I hadn't seen that site or article. I liked it very much. Thank you!

Diane,

I really liked Taylor's article. Is there a bunch of these PT Yoga Therapists around? I want to talk to Neil (I am sitting with him in Hamilton in a few weeks) about what exactly the scope of a Yoga Therapist would be. I have seen so much variety (not all of it good) that I don't know if the term means anything

**Diane** · 22-10-2011, 06:23 PM

I think there is some kind of certification process, but I have no idea what is entailed or what body of knowledge is tested..

**byronselorme** · 22-10-2011, 09:31 PM

I don't think you were being a smart alec

, there is an organization and several teachers who are working at bring training in that field up. I was talking a little more rhetorically.

20-10-2011, 10:01 PM	#1
byronselorme Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Age: 39 Posts: 1,367 Thanks: 726 Thanked 280 Times in 152 Posts	CIRPD Utilizing Science, Technology and the Arts to Transform Pain I listened to this lecture yesterday by Diane Gromala PhD. A member of the Transforming Pain Research group Simon Fraser University in Surrey, BC. As far as presentation quality I think there is quite a bit of room for improvment, but Diane presents some very interesting concepts for treating pain. A sufferer herself for 25 years she address some legitimate points that may be helpful with the use of Robotics, Virtual Reality, and Social Media. She mentions in the presentation that Mindfulness Meditation has tons of research supporting how effective it is with Pain. I haven't looked exhaustively but I didn't think there was that much. Anyway, this was interesting and worth my time reviewing it. Utilizing Science, Technology and the Arts to Transform Pain __________________ Byron Selorme - Science Based Yoga Educator Shavasana Yoga Center "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" Richard Feynman

20-10-2011, 11:35 PM	#2
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,671 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,189 Times in 1,567 Posts	There is quite a bit from the Jon Kabat-Zinn "school". __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

21-10-2011, 06:17 PM	#5
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,671 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,189 Times in 1,567 Posts	Hi Byron, Those weren't meant to be scare quotes - sorry.. I wanted to set off the word as being my interpretation of his set of research and teaching. Maybe I should have used asterisks, like this; school(?) All I know about him is from his online videos. I know he doesn't do peace/love/light/energy/cheery/butterflies&rainbows stuff, nor does he do I'm so guru-wizardy-and-powerful-you-will-become-mesmerized-by-my-teachings either. He talks plain sense. At least to my ear. __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire Last edited by Diane; 21-10-2011 at 06:20 PM.

22-10-2011, 03:17 AM	#7
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,671 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,189 Times in 1,567 Posts	Byron, you might find this paper interesting. (Back pain, yoga, etc.) __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

22-10-2011, 06:03 PM	#8
byronselorme Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Age: 39 Posts: 1,367 Thanks: 726 Thanked 280 Times in 152 Posts	Hi Jon, No I hadn't seen that site or article. I liked it very much. Thank you! Diane, I really liked Taylor's article. Is there a bunch of these PT Yoga Therapists around? I want to talk to Neil (I am sitting with him in Hamilton in a few weeks) about what exactly the scope of a Yoga Therapist would be. I have seen so much variety (not all of it good) that I don't know if the term means anything __________________ Byron Selorme - Science Based Yoga Educator Shavasana Yoga Center "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" Richard Feynman

21-10-2011, 07:47 AM	#3
Karen L Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Victoria Canada Posts: 1,519 Thanks: 37 Thanked 221 Times in 110 Posts	Diane Gromala and Neil Pearson were two of three keynote speakers at the BC pain Summit in June. I believe pain BC has them archived. I am very thankful the CIRPD and Pain BC are as active as they are right now and I have been enjoying the presentations they have offered. NOI Group has in interesting idea with their walking video and I believe Diane Gromala talks about snow world (U Washington) which I think has tremendous potential applications in neuroplasticity and pain. Karen

22-10-2011, 03:10 AM	#6
Jon Newman Enjoy a moment of whimsy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,024 Thanks: 5 Thanked 55 Times in 41 Posts	Byron, You might be interested in the following essay. In fact, you may have already read given your interests. Anyway, check out Social Media Is The New Authentic.

22-10-2011, 06:23 PM	#9
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,671 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,189 Times in 1,567 Posts	I think there is some kind of certification process, but I have no idea what is entailed or what body of knowledge is tested.. __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

22-10-2011, 09:31 PM	#10
byronselorme Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Age: 39 Posts: 1,367 Thanks: 726 Thanked 280 Times in 152 Posts	I don't think you were being a smart alec , there is an organization and several teachers who are working at bring training in that field up. I was talking a little more rhetorically. __________________ Byron Selorme - Science Based Yoga Educator Shavasana Yoga Center "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" Richard Feynman

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