[Question] AAOMPT conference 2011

Ref in Rehab · 24-10-2011, 11:07 PM

Anyone going to the AAOMPT conference in Anaheim, CA this weekend?

I signed up since there looked to be some interesting topics, especially given some of the things I'm learning here in SS.....a few breakout sessions about the neurophysiological effects of manual therapy...

Happy to see Jason Silvernail's name on the list of those receiving awards too

Sean

**Mike Hoy** · 25-10-2011, 02:26 AM

I will be there. If you do not see me in the week I will be at poster #20 on friday night. Hope to get to meet you and a few others who may be attending.

Jon Newman · 25-10-2011, 02:30 AM

Great news Mike. Can we get a poster preview?

**Jason Silvernail** · 25-10-2011, 12:10 PM

Thanks Sean - I'll be there and maybe we'll post some pictures.

**John W** · 25-10-2011, 02:49 PM

You'd think with the state of the California economy that they'd be offering some low priced air fares and hotel packages...but NOOOOOO!

Can't make it this year.

What are you doing a poster on, Mike?

**Mike Hoy** · 25-10-2011, 03:57 PM

Here is my abstract:

INCLUSION OF NEURODYNAMIC TECHNIQUES IN AN IMPAIRMENT BASED TREATMENT PROGRAM FOR MEDIAL TIBIAL STRESS SYNDROME IN A RUNNER: A CASE REPORT
Hoy MJ
Select Physical Therapy, Huntersville, NC, USA
Regis University Manual Therapy Fellowship Program, Denver, Colorado, USA
Corresponding Author: Michael Hoy: hoysrus@yahoo.com
Background: Medial tibial stress syndrome (MTSS) is a common complaint of leg pain. Its incidence is reported between four% and 35% in runners and military personnel. Pain occurs along the posterior medial tibial border with exercise and palpation. Treatment typically consists of anti-inflammatory medication, therapeutic modalities, calf stretching, and orthotic or taping interventions. Description: A 36 year old female runner presented with a 7 month history of medial tibial pain that occurred during and after running. Baseline Lower Extremity Functional Score was 74/80. Results: Treatment consisted of manual neurodynamic techniques and soft tissue mobility along the path of the tibial nerve, followed by self neurodynamic mobility exercises. Exercises to address lower extremity strength impairments were then initiated. After five visits over a period of three weeks, the patient demonstrated full lower extremity strength, no pain reproduction with neurodynamic stress tests, and no pain with running distances up to 10 miles. The Final LEFS score was 76/80. Global Rate of Change score was a +7 (A very great deal better). The patient was discharged to a home exercise program with continuation of neuro-dynamic mobilizations as indicated. Discussion and Conclusion: While no conclusions can be drawn from a case study, the results obtained suggest that patients with MTSS may benefit from inclusion of neurodynamic techniques as part of overall Physical Therapy patient management.

Ref in Rehab · 25-10-2011, 04:35 PM

Great Mike, yours was on my list of must-see posters....

Looking forward to meeting you, Jason, and hopefully a few others as well!

smith · 25-10-2011, 07:28 PM

Impressive case study Mike.

**Javier Gonzalez** · 25-10-2011, 09:38 PM

Great case studio Mike! What type of soft tissue mobility have you used?

**Mike Hoy** · 25-10-2011, 11:06 PM

I used lateral glides along the nerve path of the lower leg, at a depth where I feel (where I think I feel) an onset of tissue resistance, but no pain- nothing to specific Sometimes I hold, sometimes I oscillate- kinda depends on how the body is reacting. This was followed by manual neurodynamic and then active neurodynamic movements.

**Javier Gonzalez** · 25-10-2011, 11:23 PM

Thanks Mike for the answer

**Jason Silvernail** · 26-10-2011, 01:58 AM

Platform Presentations

Poster Presentations

**Mike Hoy** · 26-10-2011, 06:01 AM

http://www.maney.co.uk/index.php/jmt-extra-content

This will link to the JMMT site. From here you can download the abstracts of all the posters.

mrupe82 · 01-11-2011, 06:54 PM

I wanted to bump this thread.

I heard there was some interesting debate.....

**Jason Silvernail** · 01-11-2011, 07:15 PM

Yes Stanley Paris had a keynote address in which he accused the EIM group of being "dishonest" in the production of a paper questioning the value of weekend CME courses and called for the paper to be retracted. He also said the CPR studies were promoting unskilled and nonspecific manipulative procedures that were inappropriate for students to perform and devalued the manual therapy skill set.
There was quite a hubbub. Lots of interesting sidebar conversations afterward.

**John W** · 01-11-2011, 08:01 PM

Jason,

During or following Paris' tirade, did anyone draw his attention to the growing body of research shedding doubt on the validity of the traditional OMPT assessment procedures, particularly segmental mobility testing?

I see that his wife, Caterine Patla, still includes "reliability and validity of end feels" as an area of "interest" on her bio at the USA website.

Has her "interest" led to any published research in this area?

She also list "critical thinking" as a "current interest".

Interesting.

Ref in Rehab · 01-11-2011, 08:17 PM

There were a few gasps and lots of looking around at the guys wearing the EIM shirts when Paris was speaking, and as Jason mentioned...lots of interesting sidebar conversations all weekend.

Another portion of his address that made me wrinkle my eyebrows was his mentioning of "boutique" clinics and the fact that we were discharging patients too early. I'm paraphrasing here but it was along the lines of "Just because they don't have pain anymore doesn't mean their joints are better" and recommending "tune-up" visits every six months to check for potential problems.

Jason's platform presentation was great, he was great in both the presentation and follow up questions, and I thought Mike had a great poster presentation and enjoyed talking with him about the neurodynamics he used in his case study.

**Bas Asselbergs** · 01-11-2011, 08:32 PM

Sean: Thanks for the update.
wow. What a thing to say

Quote:

"Just because they don't have pain anymore doesn't mean their joints are better"

.
Just: wow.

**Barrett Dorko** · 01-11-2011, 08:38 PM

Well, I was with him when Stan first said, "We don't treat pain, we treat function." It was about 1977.

We now understand this was wrong on many levels, and I know Paris has been shown this because I myself showed him. Obviously, my words and the literature I used to support them had no affect.

He'll let go of this right after Katherine Patla lets go of her contentions regarding "end-feel."

**zimney3pt** · 01-11-2011, 08:43 PM

Quote:

recommending "tune-up" visits every six months to check for potential problems.

Yes, wow is right Bas...how "Chiro"-ish to make such a statement.

**Jason Silvernail** · 01-11-2011, 08:53 PM

Thanks Sean. Attached a photo of us at the conference.

Ref in Rehab · 01-11-2011, 09:28 PM

"Chiro"-ish indeed..

I must say all in all, I was impressed with a lot of the research that is being done. There were a few references to biomechanical based theory, but to me at least, more mentions of central sensitization, neurophysiologic effects, etc.

Thanks to what I've learned recently, I'm ready to dive in a do a fellowship myself...probably best to start a new thread asking if anyone has good recommendations....

**Barrett Dorko** · 01-11-2011, 09:48 PM

Okay. Sean must be about 6 foot 8.

**John W** · 01-11-2011, 09:58 PM

I swear, I was just about to say that I've met Jason and he's over 6ft. Sean looks like he plays power forward for the Sonics!

**zimney3pt** · 01-11-2011, 10:12 PM

John, you are aware that the Sonics move to Oklahoma City in 2008.

**Bas Asselbergs** · 01-11-2011, 10:12 PM

Sean, did you borrow Paris' soapbox for that pic? :-)

Ref in Rehab · 01-11-2011, 10:24 PM

Hahaha....I'm 6'5"...and the Ref_in_Rehab sobrique comes from the fact that I moonlight as a basketball ref for high school and small colleges...First game Friday night! Woohoo!

Jon Newman · 02-11-2011, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Silvernail

Yes Stanley Paris had a keynote address in which he accused the EIM group of being "dishonest" in the production of a paper questioning the value of weekend CME courses and called for the paper to be retracted.

Jason,

Do you know if that paper has made it into the SoS? I don't recall seeing it.

Ref in Rehab · 02-11-2011, 01:02 AM

I haven't seen that address listed yet on the AAOMPT website....I'll keep an eye out for it and post it if/when it shows up.

**Mike Hoy** · 02-11-2011, 01:23 AM

Jon,
here is the link to the article Paris spoke of. Should be free from PTJournal

It is from Josh Cleland in 2009 titled "Does continuing education improve physical therapists' effectiveness in treating neck pain"

Jason, great to see you again and as always great discussions.
Sean, Nice to meet you there.

proud · 02-11-2011, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ref in Rehab

There were a few gasps and lots of looking around at the guys wearing the EIM shirts when Paris was speaking, and as Jason mentioned...lots of interesting sidebar conversations all weekend.

Another portion of his address that made me wrinkle my eyebrows was his mentioning of "boutique" clinics and the fact that we were discharging patients too early. I'm paraphrasing here but it was along the lines of "Just because they don't have pain anymore doesn't mean their joints are better" and recommending "tune-up" visits every six months to check for potential problems.

Jason's platform presentation was great, he was great in both the presentation and follow up questions, and I thought Mike had a great poster presentation and enjoyed talking with him about the neurodynamics he used in his case study.

I am sick to my stomach.

Jon Newman · 02-11-2011, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Hoy

Jon,
here is the link to the article Paris spoke of. Should be free from PTJournal

It is from Josh Cleland in 2009 titled "Does continuing education improve physical therapists' effectiveness in treating neck pain"

Thanks Mike.

24-10-2011, 11:07 PM	#1
Ref in Rehab Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 36 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	AAOMPT conference 2011 Anyone going to the AAOMPT conference in Anaheim, CA this weekend? I signed up since there looked to be some interesting topics, especially given some of the things I'm learning here in SS.....a few breakout sessions about the neurophysiological effects of manual therapy... Happy to see Jason Silvernail's name on the list of those receiving awards too Sean

25-10-2011, 12:10 PM	#4
Jason Silvernail Clinician and Researcher Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kandahar Province, Afghanistan Age: 39 Posts: 4,078 Thanks: 110 Thanked 535 Times in 181 Posts	Thanks Sean - I'll be there and maybe we'll post some pictures. __________________ Jason Silvernail DPT, DSc, FAAOMPT Board-Certified in Orthopedic Physical Therapy Fellowship-Trained in Orthopedic Manual Therapy Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist The views expressed in this entry are those of the author alone and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense, or the US Government.

25-10-2011, 02:49 PM	#5
John W Harmless creampuff Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 48 Posts: 4,643 Thanks: 614 Thanked 966 Times in 436 Posts	You'd think with the state of the California economy that they'd be offering some low priced air fares and hotel packages...but NOOOOOO! Can't make it this year. What are you doing a poster on, Mike? __________________ John Ware, PT Fellow of the American Academy of Orthopedic Manual Physical Therapists "Nothing can bring a man peace but the triumph of principles." -R.W. Emerson “If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success.” -The Analects of Confucius, Book 13, Verse 3

25-10-2011, 03:57 PM	#6
Mike Hoy SomaSimpler Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 38 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts	Here is my abstract: INCLUSION OF NEURODYNAMIC TECHNIQUES IN AN IMPAIRMENT BASED TREATMENT PROGRAM FOR MEDIAL TIBIAL STRESS SYNDROME IN A RUNNER: A CASE REPORT Hoy MJ Select Physical Therapy, Huntersville, NC, USA Regis University Manual Therapy Fellowship Program, Denver, Colorado, USA Corresponding Author: Michael Hoy: hoysrus@yahoo.com Background: Medial tibial stress syndrome (MTSS) is a common complaint of leg pain. Its incidence is reported between four% and 35% in runners and military personnel. Pain occurs along the posterior medial tibial border with exercise and palpation. Treatment typically consists of anti-inflammatory medication, therapeutic modalities, calf stretching, and orthotic or taping interventions. Description: A 36 year old female runner presented with a 7 month history of medial tibial pain that occurred during and after running. Baseline Lower Extremity Functional Score was 74/80. Results: Treatment consisted of manual neurodynamic techniques and soft tissue mobility along the path of the tibial nerve, followed by self neurodynamic mobility exercises. Exercises to address lower extremity strength impairments were then initiated. After five visits over a period of three weeks, the patient demonstrated full lower extremity strength, no pain reproduction with neurodynamic stress tests, and no pain with running distances up to 10 miles. The Final LEFS score was 76/80. Global Rate of Change score was a +7 (A very great deal better). The patient was discharged to a home exercise program with continuation of neuro-dynamic mobilizations as indicated. Discussion and Conclusion: While no conclusions can be drawn from a case study, the results obtained suggest that patients with MTSS may benefit from inclusion of neurodynamic techniques as part of overall Physical Therapy patient management. __________________ Mike Hoy, PT, DPT, OCS "When deciding between two competing theories, always go with the one that doesn't involve a magic spell." - Emo Philips

25-10-2011, 04:35 PM	#7
Ref in Rehab Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 36 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Great Mike, yours was on my list of must-see posters.... Looking forward to meeting you, Jason, and hopefully a few others as well! __________________ Sean Weatherston, PT, OCS

25-10-2011, 02:26 AM	#2
Mike Hoy SomaSimpler Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 38 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts	I will be there. If you do not see me in the week I will be at poster #20 on friday night. Hope to get to meet you and a few others who may be attending. __________________ Mike Hoy, PT, DPT, OCS "When deciding between two competing theories, always go with the one that doesn't involve a magic spell." - Emo Philips

25-10-2011, 02:30 AM	#3
Jon Newman Enjoy a moment of whimsy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,024 Thanks: 5 Thanked 54 Times in 40 Posts	Great news Mike. Can we get a poster preview?

25-10-2011, 07:28 PM	#8
smith Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Age: 55 Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Impressive case study Mike.

25-10-2011, 09:38 PM	#9
Javier Gonzalez SomaSimpler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Asturias- Spain Age: 37 Posts: 185 Thanks: 18 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Great case studio Mike! What type of soft tissue mobility have you used? __________________ Javier González Iglesias

25-10-2011, 11:06 PM	#10
Mike Hoy SomaSimpler Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 38 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts	I used lateral glides along the nerve path of the lower leg, at a depth where I feel (where I think I feel) an onset of tissue resistance, but no pain- nothing to specific Sometimes I hold, sometimes I oscillate- kinda depends on how the body is reacting. This was followed by manual neurodynamic and then active neurodynamic movements. __________________ Mike Hoy, PT, DPT, OCS "When deciding between two competing theories, always go with the one that doesn't involve a magic spell." - Emo Philips

25-10-2011, 11:23 PM	#11
Javier Gonzalez SomaSimpler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Asturias- Spain Age: 37 Posts: 185 Thanks: 18 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Thanks Mike for the answer __________________ Javier González Iglesias

26-10-2011, 01:58 AM	#12
Jason Silvernail Clinician and Researcher Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kandahar Province, Afghanistan Age: 39 Posts: 4,078 Thanks: 110 Thanked 535 Times in 181 Posts	Platform Presentations Poster Presentations __________________ Jason Silvernail DPT, DSc, FAAOMPT Board-Certified in Orthopedic Physical Therapy Fellowship-Trained in Orthopedic Manual Therapy Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist The views expressed in this entry are those of the author alone and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense, or the US Government.

26-10-2011, 06:01 AM	#13
Mike Hoy SomaSimpler Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 38 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts	http://www.maney.co.uk/index.php/jmt-extra-content This will link to the JMMT site. From here you can download the abstracts of all the posters. __________________ Mike Hoy, PT, DPT, OCS "When deciding between two competing theories, always go with the one that doesn't involve a magic spell." - Emo Philips

01-11-2011, 06:54 PM	#14
mrupe82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 419 Thanks: 5 Thanked 168 Times in 54 Posts	I wanted to bump this thread. I heard there was some interesting debate..... __________________ Matthew Rupiper Physical Therapist

01-11-2011, 07:15 PM	#15
Jason Silvernail Clinician and Researcher Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kandahar Province, Afghanistan Age: 39 Posts: 4,078 Thanks: 110 Thanked 535 Times in 181 Posts	Yes Stanley Paris had a keynote address in which he accused the EIM group of being "dishonest" in the production of a paper questioning the value of weekend CME courses and called for the paper to be retracted. He also said the CPR studies were promoting unskilled and nonspecific manipulative procedures that were inappropriate for students to perform and devalued the manual therapy skill set. There was quite a hubbub. Lots of interesting sidebar conversations afterward. __________________ Jason Silvernail DPT, DSc, FAAOMPT Board-Certified in Orthopedic Physical Therapy Fellowship-Trained in Orthopedic Manual Therapy Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist The views expressed in this entry are those of the author alone and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense, or the US Government.

01-11-2011, 08:01 PM	#16
John W Harmless creampuff Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 48 Posts: 4,643 Thanks: 614 Thanked 966 Times in 436 Posts	Jason, During or following Paris' tirade, did anyone draw his attention to the growing body of research shedding doubt on the validity of the traditional OMPT assessment procedures, particularly segmental mobility testing? I see that his wife, Caterine Patla, still includes "reliability and validity of end feels" as an area of "interest" on her bio at the USA website. Has her "interest" led to any published research in this area? She also list "critical thinking" as a "current interest". Interesting. __________________ John Ware, PT Fellow of the American Academy of Orthopedic Manual Physical Therapists "Nothing can bring a man peace but the triumph of principles." -R.W. Emerson “If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success.” -The Analects of Confucius, Book 13, Verse 3

01-11-2011, 08:17 PM	#17
Ref in Rehab Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 36 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	There were a few gasps and lots of looking around at the guys wearing the EIM shirts when Paris was speaking, and as Jason mentioned...lots of interesting sidebar conversations all weekend. Another portion of his address that made me wrinkle my eyebrows was his mentioning of "boutique" clinics and the fact that we were discharging patients too early. I'm paraphrasing here but it was along the lines of "Just because they don't have pain anymore doesn't mean their joints are better" and recommending "tune-up" visits every six months to check for potential problems. Jason's platform presentation was great, he was great in both the presentation and follow up questions, and I thought Mike had a great poster presentation and enjoyed talking with him about the neurodynamics he used in his case study. __________________ Sean Weatherston, PT, OCS

01-11-2011, 08:38 PM	#19
Barrett Dorko Writer and Clinician Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Age: 61 Posts: 12,643 Thanks: 605 Thanked 1,452 Times in 856 Posts	Well, I was with him when Stan first said, "We don't treat pain, we treat function." It was about 1977. We now understand this was wrong on many levels, and I know Paris has been shown this because I myself showed him. Obviously, my words and the literature I used to support them had no affect. He'll let go of this right after Katherine Patla lets go of her contentions regarding "end-feel." __________________ Barrett L. Dorko P.T. www.barrettdorko.com

01-11-2011, 09:28 PM	#22
Ref in Rehab Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 36 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	"Chiro"-ish indeed.. I must say all in all, I was impressed with a lot of the research that is being done. There were a few references to biomechanical based theory, but to me at least, more mentions of central sensitization, neurophysiologic effects, etc. Thanks to what I've learned recently, I'm ready to dive in a do a fellowship myself...probably best to start a new thread asking if anyone has good recommendations.... __________________ Sean Weatherston, PT, OCS

01-11-2011, 09:48 PM	#23
Barrett Dorko Writer and Clinician Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Age: 61 Posts: 12,643 Thanks: 605 Thanked 1,452 Times in 856 Posts	Okay. Sean must be about 6 foot 8. __________________ Barrett L. Dorko P.T. www.barrettdorko.com

01-11-2011, 09:58 PM	#24
John W Harmless creampuff Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 48 Posts: 4,643 Thanks: 614 Thanked 966 Times in 436 Posts	I swear, I was just about to say that I've met Jason and he's over 6ft. Sean looks like he plays power forward for the Sonics! __________________ John Ware, PT Fellow of the American Academy of Orthopedic Manual Physical Therapists "Nothing can bring a man peace but the triumph of principles." -R.W. Emerson “If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success.” -The Analects of Confucius, Book 13, Verse 3

01-11-2011, 10:12 PM	#25
zimney3pt life long learner, clinician, and instructor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sioux City, IA Age: 43 Posts: 1,902 Thanks: 149 Thanked 675 Times in 265 Posts	John, you are aware that the Sonics move to Oklahoma City in 2008. __________________ Kory Zimney, PT, DPT http://koryzimney.blogspot.com "Study principles not methods, a mind that can grasp principles will create its own methods." - Gill "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei

01-11-2011, 10:12 PM	#26
Bas Asselbergs Physiotherapist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Age: 61 Posts: 3,693 Thanks: 835 Thanked 484 Times in 233 Posts	Sean, did you borrow Paris' soapbox for that pic? :-) __________________ We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are - Anais Nin Pain is a conscious correlate of the implicit perception of threat to body tissue - Lorimer Moseley

01-11-2011, 10:24 PM	#27
Ref in Rehab Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 36 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Hahaha....I'm 6'5"...and the Ref_in_Rehab sobrique comes from the fact that I moonlight as a basketball ref for high school and small colleges...First game Friday night! Woohoo! __________________ Sean Weatherston, PT, OCS

02-11-2011, 01:02 AM	#29
Ref in Rehab Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 36 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I haven't seen that address listed yet on the AAOMPT website....I'll keep an eye out for it and post it if/when it shows up. __________________ Sean Weatherston, PT, OCS

02-11-2011, 01:23 AM	#30
Mike Hoy SomaSimpler Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 38 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts	Jon, here is the link to the article Paris spoke of. Should be free from PTJournal It is from Josh Cleland in 2009 titled "Does continuing education improve physical therapists' effectiveness in treating neck pain" Jason, great to see you again and as always great discussions. Sean, Nice to meet you there. __________________ Mike Hoy, PT, DPT, OCS "When deciding between two competing theories, always go with the one that doesn't involve a magic spell." - Emo Philips

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
AAOMPT 2010	Jason Silvernail	Training, Courses, Conferences...	66	25-10-2011 10:36 PM
AAOMPT 2009	Jason Silvernail	Training, Courses, Conferences...	19	16-10-2009 07:07 AM
AAOMPT 2008, Seattle	BB	General Discussion	34	06-11-2008 04:18 AM
AAOMPT Conference	EricM	General Discussion	11	18-05-2008 04:44 AM