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My head gets sore sometimes from being pulled this way then that way about what placebo is, if it's something to be avoided, shunned, ridiculed, or embraced, worked with, understood at last.
Medical research kinda depends on making it the bad guy in every case, so that the "active" ingredient in the drug, or the "efficacy" of the treatment approach, can be selected out and highlighted and taught to the next generation of whoever. As human primate social groomers we beat ourselves up a lot for mostly failing to be able to isolate it. But really, we can't - our patients are awake, and they all have expectations. And nothing happens unless a favourable treatment context is carefully built. Plus, the medical profession still operates under the assumption that pain is an input to the brain, not an output by the brain. This gives license to a vast array of mesodermalists who continue to not only ignore a wideangle view of pain, but insist that its "generated" by their favorite tissue, whatever it may be: joints for the orthos, fascia for the fascists, craniums and cerebral spinal fluid rhythm irregularities for the cranialists, triggerpoints for the pokers, muscles for the massagers, etc., etc. You get the drift. So. Meanwhile, people are hurting and are fed up. They've organized themselves into patient advocacy groups. They incorporate pain researchers right into their ranks, and invite them to speak directly to them, the pain patients, without the information having to filter all the way through the medical profession and all the human primate social grooming professions first. Which I completely support. It's called self-empowerment, or something. This is a great example: it's a free webinar next month, featuring one of Canada's finest researchers, Catherine Bushnell, organized and cosponsored by by the Canadian Institute for Relief of Pain and Disability, the Canadian Pain Coalition, and Pain BC: Out-thinking Pain:How the Mind can Control Pain. It looks great. So, here's something I just finished posting on Facebook on one of Paul's threads about placebo: What if it were this simple? Placebo = matchThe thing is, there has to be preparation and education (a plan to lay the fire, knowing it's been laid, knowing there is sufficient wood supply) and a therapeutic context (somewhere dry enough and out of heavy wind), and someone to start the process. But the match. Nothing will happen without the match. That's what I think today, about placebo, defined as expectation, in conscious people who would prefer to not have pain. If there is not enough wood, i.e., if there is a pain syndrome that is sufficiently entrenched or genetically determined as to be beyond simple help from a manual therapist, then ... the fire might light but it will burn out pretty fast. If I think of anything else, I'll add. If others think of anything I missed, please add. Link to long placebo study thread
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I've been considering what role manual contact would play, to complete the metaphor. It's not always required, but it often helps. I think I would peg it as the adding of oxygen, by fanning the fire, or blowing it gently into fuller existence.
It helps, but it can't really take the place of any of the other ingredients, which are all intrinsic to the patients.
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Blogpost, Pain and Fire.
Barrett, I remember when you wrote about this a decade ago. I did not get it back then. I just got it.
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"Blowing out fire" still exists in Europe
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Diane, Wonderful post.
It Might Only Be Glowing is the essay to which you refer. I didn’t write it ten years ago – it was fifteen. |
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I guess that well-written little essay managed to squeeze it's way into some little spot and drip into my brain all these years. Drip enough fire accelerant in there and things may eventually light up, I suppose.
I remember it didn't make sense to me at the time other than metaphorically. I didn't have enough information yet about brain and pain processes for it to lay itself out. Now I do, and it does.
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I didn't know much either, certainly less than you. I let the poet lead me, and that often works. Not always. But David Whyte has never led me astray. I've written elsewhere of ideomotion as a "controlled burn." I'll see if I can do that again. |
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I suspect ideomotion is a subset of controlled burn, but that they don't necessarily equate. In other words, using the fire-putting-out-pain metaphor, maybe ideomotion is outward expression of something the patient has to do inside his or her own brain, that might help harness their own brain parts to the task. But it isn't the actual burn itself. I'm reading (slogging really) through this (full access BTW) paper this morning: Dopamine, Affordance and Active Inference (I found it posted at Facebook in one of the neuro sites/groups I've wiggled my way into. Don't remember exactly which one it was.) Anyway, it's fascinating. Dopamine is the accelerant to everything. Whichever part of the brain gains control of the flipswitch to the dopamine dripper, will rule movement, and/OR perception. At least that's what I'm getting from it so far. It's a 20-page paper and I'm only on page 5 so far. It's slow going, with side trips to learn what Bayesian theorem is. From the paper page 2: Quote:
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Wag Dodge. Right. I remember that. We have to create a context for our brains to WagDodgify our pain problems. As human primate social groomers we have to teach others how.
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Another blogpost: Is placebo like gravity?
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Here is one of the Facebook threads that started my current placebo headache/headache about what it all means. This one too.
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Probably a more effective placebo than ultrasound because the patient feels it doing 'more good' with its little buzz.
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The Influence of the Therapist-Patient Relationship on Treatment Outcome in Physical Rehabilitation: A Systematic Review
In this systematic review from 2010, Amanda Hall et al discuss non-specific effects related to physical therapy treatment. Quote:
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Caro found the paper about the boy with the congenital skin condition that went away with hypnosis, discussed by his doctor in the video from post 16, cracking the code.
![]() A CASE OF CONGENITAL ICTHYOSIFORM ERYTHRIODERMIA OF BROCQ TREATED BY HYPNOSIS, by AA Mason, 1952 N=1. But it's good it was written up.
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Placebo Analgesia Affects Brain Correlates of Error Processing.
This is open access PLoS1. They measured exteroceptive nociception. Placebo was a capsule. Quote:
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A nice juicy article in Harvard mag, about Ted Kaptchuk (Web that has no Weaver) and his subsequent work in placebo research. The Placebo Phenomenon
He has done quite a bit to deconstruct the phenomenon by the sound of it.
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Hot off the press: "Scientists Decipher the Healing Powers of Placebos"
Get your red-hot, non-specific treatment effects, right here.
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I can't read the whole article. Is it worthwhile or just a catchy sensationalist title?
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Weird - it was full print when I posted it. Sorry! I'll try to fix.
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The link goes to the full article again, Erik.
Here is another: "Psychiatrists, Instead of Being Embarrassed by Placebo Effect, Should Embrace It, Author Says"
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As a follow up.
A Harvard magazine article on Ted Kaptchuk and his latest placebo study, mentioned in the Scientific American article. Quote:
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This was probably covered before but I often have a time-gap between reading new information and actually realizing its implications.
Quote:
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Hello
Please contact with Dr. Purita for a better solution. Address: Dr. Purita Stacia Lawrence, COO Stem MD 123 NW 13th Street, Suite 206 Boca Raton, Florida 33432 561-394-5560 (o) 561-713-3666 (c) http://stem.md Last edited by Diane; 28-04-2013 at 12:39 AM. Reason: Live link removed |
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