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Old 21-05-2012, 12:19 PM   #1
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No doubt, I am a heretic. When Jules Rothstein (then the editor of the Physical Therapy Journal) said, “The findings of this and the previous study may lead to conclusions that (in physical therapy) are almost heretical in nature” I immediately referenced the research here.

In a recent blog post I suggested with a brief conversation that when someone opposes your explanation and is certain about their own ideas that you shouldn’t make an effort to alter their thinking.

In this collection of essays Isaac Asimov addresses the issue of heresy. He says there are two kinds:

Endoheretics – Those who arise from within the professional realm of science.

Exoheretics - Those who come from somewhere else.

Of the two, the former is far well less known, is subject to punishment by orthodoxy and, I gather, is what we’d now call science-based. The latter doesn’t sit still for any questioning of their theory and take their case directly to others who aren’t capable of criticism. Notoriety is what they seek.

I played the part of the endoheretic in the conversation and the “certain” one is probably an exoheretic.

The certainty gives it away every time.
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Old 21-05-2012, 02:36 PM   #2
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Quiz: Who was the earliest and most well-known endoheretic according to Asimov?
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While not technically a scientist, I think Socrates might have been the earliest to challenge orthodoxy with rationalism- and pay with his life.

A contemporary of Socrates and more strictly scientific thinker was Hippocrates, who created quite a stir. But I guess since he actually helped people in a way that was demonstrable he was allowed to continue living.

Am I even close?
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I really need to get more reading materials. I think this will be one of the first for my Kindle (well Kindle app on iPad).
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Ken,

I appreciate your desire to read more good stuff. It's everywhere, and, I try to find the more obscure parts of it and post it here. It makes me look smart.

You may know the answer because I let it slip in the bar last Saturday. We were probably the only two people in Ohio talking about Galileo at that moment.
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Well, only about 200 years off. Not bad I guess.

Now that I think about it some more, a Rennaissance era scientist would have to be the one since that's around when formal scientific methodology started. I thought of Galileo- really, I did- but since I'm not very familiar with Asimov I wasn't sure how strict a definition of "scientist" you were looking for.
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John,

Not to put too fine a point on it, I think "200" is a little short in the years department.

It's a good question; what makes someone a scientist? To me, it's simply the presence of scientific method in their thinking. Compared to the magical thinking many indulge in, it's far superior in terms of advancing the culture.

Whatever "advancing" is supposed to mean.
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Yeah, I remembered Galileo. I agree with the "scientist" definition.
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Left a zero off...[muttered as he considers the pros and cons of editing that prior post].
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