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Old 07-03-2005, 10:54 AM   #1
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Default A website with good drawings of neurodynamic movements???

Does anyone know of a good website with accurate drawings of ULNT and SLR movements (and slump?)?

I don't really want to pinch David's drawings out of the SNS book - and although I have started doing my own, it is tedious, because each action needs about four separate drawings at least.

No stick figures - anatomical bodies.

I haven't had any luck searching through Google - and haven't the equipment to video the movements on someone obliging.

What I would like to do is set up a series of drawings for patient information and use at home.

Perhaps there is a magic site I haven't found yet?



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Old 07-03-2005, 12:52 PM   #2
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Nari,

I haven't found that magic one.
I started with ULNT, there and will produce the others ones with your help?
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Hello Nari,
One of the things that I have been occupying myself with is generating some handouts of these movements. I would be glad to post them (If maybe Bernard could tell me how?) and would love to hear any comments/critiques so that I can make them better.

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Hello Cory!

Long time no hear... I would LOVE you to post up those drawings; maybe I can make mine simpler; open for ideas.

Besides, others will probably like them too.

Are they standard ULNTTs or your variations on them for movement programs?


Bernaaarrd... can you assist?


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Hi Nari,
They are pictures actually....of yours truly.
There is ULNTT1,3,4 (I actually named them on the sheets by nerve bias how it was shown to me) in gliders and tensioners. There is also Slump, long sit slump.

There is also femoral nerve glide, but that one is not very good. I need to re-do it.

I may also submit an assessment form that I have been using to see what you all think, and can give me ideas to improve on it.

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Thanks Cory

They will sit well with Bernard's photos on another thread.


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Though I haven't received my copy yet to be sure, I suspect M. Shacklock's new text will have some good pictures in it.

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So has David's SNS text, but I don't feel OK about pinching them!


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Cory,

just send the pictures by email. I will upload them to the site.
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Hi all;

Looking forward to see ing this work .


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Just received in the mail my copy of Shacklock's book, and CD. Haven't had time to look thoroughly yet, but in the book the pictures are OH SO CLEAR!
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Hi SomaSimplers,

Here is the first page that Cory sent to me. I'm working on the others 8)
I needed to re-format the images (too big sizes :wink: )
http://www.somasimple.com/private/neuromobs.htm
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http://neurodynamicsolutions.com/index.html
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Cory and bernard


These are just great! Well done!

One query, Cory.. for ulnar nerve, it is quite different from what I learnt some years ago. I understand the elbow has to be fully flexed and the hand beside the ear, upside down...eg 90/160/70 +/- LF(abd/elbow flex/wrist ext/CxLF)? ULNTT4

How many repetitions do you ask a patient to do? I picked a maximum of 5, as no-one knew for sure.

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Nari,

I changed your last post since Ian isn't the poster but Cory.
I omitted the "repeat" box that Cory sent with the papers since on internet it is not easy to fill it! :wink: But we lost a bit of indication? ops:
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Wow Cory, nice job! (Is that you in the picture?)
Thanks for putting those up here Bernard. It's a feat and a fete and a fait!
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Hi all :

thanks , nice work ,so nice .

But let us answer one question .

The neurodynamic test is composed of more than 3 componetnts in most cases , the question :arrow: On what basis we choose the components we will use as sliders /treatment .

I thought Bernard , these pictures are better for only special members of somasimple , just an idea.

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I thought Bernard , these pictures are better for only special members of somasimple , just an idea.

The more they are known and viewed, more we will and knowledge shared! 8) :wink: Just my idea? :lol:
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If Cory is OK with them being publically displayed I agree Bernard. Otherwise I would support Emad's concern.
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So, just wait Cory thoughts!
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Great pictures guys.
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The neurodynamic test is composed of more than 3 componetnts in most cases , the question On what basis we choose the components we will use as sliders /treatment .
Thats a good question. Of course you should alter these movements to suit your patient. Example, for the median nerve instead of flex.ext of the wrist you might choose to play with pron/sup of the forearm. As long as the patient remains in control of their symptoms so as to avoid a nasty flare up.

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Eric;

I will be back to put comment regarding that question , also i will criticize those above neuordynamic exs . 8)



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Hello,
Nari,
If I'm visualizing your description of ulnar nerve test correctly, then I think it is the same as the picture only a farther stretch? As bernard said, on my original sheets there was a space for repetitions and times per day. I usually never start with more than 10 reps, and sometimes no more than 5 (based on your past recommendations mostly. Thanks!!!)

Bernard,
I would prefer to have them in a section for members only. However, if people think they are going to be useful, maybe we could generate a access password that we can give to our patients so that they can access them as well. I've actually thought about making a patient/therapist education, handout, and forms resource site. Maybe we could do that here?

Emad,
I think that these pictures have definate limitations. I chose these components because I think that it is an easy place to start. I usually can write in modifications in movement, order, and so on, on the sheet when I hand it out. I would love to hear your comments and criticisms though, as I'm sure they would help to improve them.

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Yes that is me.

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Cory

If you are focusing on the ulnar nerve 'glidability' at the elbow, how would your pictures portray this?

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Quite right, you would focus on sup/pron if that identified tension more than wrist F/E...these movements are endlessly adaptable with their permutations and combinations. All we need to know is the more or less precise path of the nerve in question.
Preventing flare-ups can be tricky; but as long as they experience some of THEIR pain...they can be reassured it is OK and not harmful.


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Hi Nari,

You could make the distal movement happen at the elbow, so that the head and elbow are moving in unison.
You could also make the elbow the proximal mover, so that the wrist and elbow move in together.
These would make the elbow have to slide by the nerve.

However,
You could also keep the elbow fixed and move from the shoulder and the wrist making the nerve have to glide by the elbow.

Would you agree?

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Hi All,

I moved the files to the protected section!

Nerve Gliding Techniques : Femoral Nerve Bias
Nerve Gliding Techniques: Longsit Slump
Nerve Gliding Techniques: Median Nerve Bias
Nerve Tensioning Techniques : Median Nerve Bias
Nerve Gliding Techniques: Radial Nerve Bias
Nerve Tensioning Techniques : Radial Nerve Bias
Nerve Gliding Techniques: Seated Slump
Nerve Gliding Techniques: Ulnar Nerve Bias
Nerve Tensioning Techniques : Ulnar Nerve Bias
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I've actually thought about making a patient/therapist education, handout, and forms resource site. Maybe we could do that here?
Just ask your needs!

But we have already a patient section forum. :idea:
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Hi All:

Nice ,wonderful thread & discussion .

Eric ,
good reasonable answer from you for good question .you mean tweaking .

Bernard ,
sorry that i evoked the idea of privatising the drawings of neuro dynamics , but you can put an adverisment on the forum denotes that there are more benefits for certain members .

Cory ;

I think the main idea of neurodynamics is that the CNS is one entity/network /system , so that applying the mobilisation movement of the CNS is of benefit regardless of its postion, i mean if you move the head /cervical ,you already mobilise the peroneal never so so distance ,,and personally ,i believe applying the movement at distance is more better than within the area of sensitivity , so i find no reason to apply 2 motions at the same UL , however one motion is off-tension and the other is tension , i mean making the ex more slider than tensioner , so in my own view if we applied the off-tensioner part at the site of pain and the opposite one at other parts of the CNS , this will be more applicable , pariticularly in acute sensitive cases.

Also , the postion of applying the neurodynamic test will be more better if applied from designed relaxed postion , as i do not find it reasonable /even practically to apply ULTT ex from sitting positions , the paitent will need more load to practise the ex from sitting , look if it applied from supine /sidelying and the UL is supported with pillows , jst my own view .

so that ,i liked te idea of the femoral ex you supplied , it is relaxed , using distance components .

As well i like to evoke another point , if the patient performing ULTT 1 ex for median nerve , what actually happen to the ulnar and radial nerves at the same time , can not we consider it neurodynamic ex for them ? :?: :?:


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The idea of Micro-neurodynamics fell from our hands :wink: :wink:

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Cory

I agree; there is no set rules and protocol, of course, other than ensuring the relevant nerve gets a fair deal and the action is slow and controlled if the pain is very severe!

Only limited by imagination.


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Hi,
I agree with you Emad about areas of mobilizing. I would agree that in some I think it is better to start in non-weightbearing, but I would also argue that upright is going to be a more functionally meaningful position for lots of people (for example the Butler example of the violinist who has positive ULNTT). I also agree with you about the fact that the other nerves are mobilized as well. I just named the pictures that way for my own simplicity. (I also want to add that since I have not been reading posts here for a bit, I notice a big improvement in your english writing! Once again, I think that it is an amazing ability to discuss such things in another language.)

I continue to evolve, and struggle in my use of the neurodynamics. I will write and ask more questions as soon as I finish reading the sensitive nervous system.
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With many chronic pain people, their pain increases with the tension of lying down, particularly supine/prone, so I sometimes start in sitting, and move to supine if it appears OK for them. It depends on the individual, every one is different...

And certainly, the other nerves are mobilised, particularly the median and radial...along with everything else that gets in the way.

I agree too, that your English has changed rapidly!!! Well done.


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That is great!
It shows us how to do it...
I like it... wow
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Hi Cory & Nari ;

Thanks for your support/ appreciation of my English.


That is okay , i agree with u about tweaking positioning for neurodynamics .


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Since you haven't 10 posts, yet =>
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then this one.
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Hy,

Found this while "surfing"
Drawings and text of Butlers ULNT's
Don't know if permission is needed?

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If anyone does want drawings based from photographs - give me the pix and I'm happy to use photoshop to make line drawings. I've used this method in the past to draw up 'safe' patient handling pix.
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I can't seem to access the links posted above... are they still available?
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works for me.

here's the full url
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http:
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http://mbutlerptocsmdt.com/neural_mobility_grading_techniques.html&h


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maybe you can work with the first part, then explore the site. I had to put in line breaks so you could see the whole thing.

The middle part alone is enough to get me there.
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I've done a couple of images - but I want to insert arrows to demonstrate the direction of movements, example attached. It's in powerpoint, so anyone can edit as needed.
Let me know if this is good enough and I'll go on and do the rest.
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Looks great Bronnie! Nicely done, thanks.
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Bronnie, those arrows really add something. Well done.
Did you create those from scratch? (All I could find on the site were upper limb pictures.)
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That is great Bonnie! Plus, I've always wanted to know what I'd look like in cartoon form...and now I know.
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Do I add the cape and mask now??!
Thanks for your encouragement, I'll carry on with the rest now. They are from photographs, with a bit of fiddling on Photoshop to create the line drawings. I'm sure there is an easier way, but I just haven't found it yet! Photography is a hobby of mine, it's incredibly relaxing...
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What? That's you Cory?
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Shhhh, we wouldn't want to give away my alter ego's identity.

Yep, that's me from the old handouts I made and posted a few years ago. I think that they are the ones linked below. There are some newer ones in existance somewhere that I believe are on the board. I'll look for them today.
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Bronnie, how did you make line drawings with photoshop? Is it a simple thing? I've got a bit of photoshop training.. but I can't figure out how you did that.
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Looks good Bronnie,
Is it possible to put it on here
as a jpg format too?
Only have powerpoint viewer.
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