[Critical Thinking] Yet more mesodermalism - the fun never stops. - Page 2

**Diane** · 01-02-2012, 12:43 AM

AhGeeShucksThanksWill.

**ste5e** · 01-02-2012, 01:16 AM

I have spent 90 minutes working through this. It has been so useful. Diane, the dialogue you had with 'He' was obviously not heeded but it does help those of us 'crossing the chasm'. Your patience with him felt like patience to me, it was not wasted. Thank you.
Zenndog - your deconstruction of the thread is sharp and I for one like your theory on the splinting response of tissues to manipulation possibly being protective to neural tissue. And I will be not using my elbow (The Elbow of Justice - Justice For All) again until I can convince myself of it not doing harm - or at least unnecessary pain. The piriformises around here will be breathing a collective sigh of relief. That tool may just be being left out of the box...

**Diane** · 01-02-2012, 01:42 AM

Yay! It's good to know it isn't all just self-indulgent, waste-of-time computer gaming-like behaviour.

zendogg · 01-02-2012, 01:58 AM

Clearer and clearer.

Thank you for taking the time to give such digestible info.
Peace

**nari** · 01-02-2012, 03:07 AM

Diane, your tolerance and motivated persistence is remarkable.
But I can picture you at the computer, grinding teeth and silently (or otherwise) swearing, and it all comes across so calmly.

All these conversations remind me of compost heaps; nearly all compost heaps are useful fodder, but certain elements, if absent, reduces its entire capacity to be more useful.

Nari

01-02-2012, 12:43 AM	#51
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01-02-2012, 01:42 AM	#53
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,661 Thanks: 1,481 Thanked 3,175 Times in 1,558 Posts	Yay! It's good to know it isn't all just self-indulgent, waste-of-time computer gaming-like behaviour. __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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01-02-2012, 01:16 AM	#52
ste5e SomaSimpler Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Harrogate UK Age: 45 Posts: 433 Thanks: 267 Thanked 262 Times in 117 Posts	I have spent 90 minutes working through this. It has been so useful. Diane, the dialogue you had with 'He' was obviously not heeded but it does help those of us 'crossing the chasm'. Your patience with him felt like patience to me, it was not wasted. Thank you. Zenndog - your deconstruction of the thread is sharp and I for one like your theory on the splinting response of tissues to manipulation possibly being protective to neural tissue. And I will be not using my elbow (The Elbow of Justice - Justice For All) again until I can convince myself of it not doing harm - or at least unnecessary pain. The piriformises around here will be breathing a collective sigh of relief. That tool may just be being left out of the box...

01-02-2012, 01:58 AM	#54
zendogg Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 320 Thanks: 84 Thanked 139 Times in 52 Posts	Clearer and clearer. Thank you for taking the time to give such digestible info. Peace

01-02-2012, 03:07 AM	#55
nari NeuroNut Evangelist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ACT Aust Posts: 7,676 Thanks: 703 Thanked 230 Times in 164 Posts	Diane, your tolerance and motivated persistence is remarkable. But I can picture you at the computer, grinding teeth and silently (or otherwise) swearing, and it all comes across so calmly. All these conversations remind me of compost heaps; nearly all compost heaps are useful fodder, but certain elements, if absent, reduces its entire capacity to be more useful. Nari