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Old 29-11-2011, 02:36 PM   #1
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Default Rubbishy animations re: pain

I was sent this page by a facebook friend in Ireland. It is a bunch of scary s**t of the worst possible sort, conveying exactly the wrong psychosocial flavour, i.e., hopelessness and despair. Check it out for a good example of exactly how NOT to think about pain. Animations. All of them are mesodermlism at its finest but the one on pain is particularly gruesome. Plus, incorrect to boot.
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Old 29-11-2011, 02:44 PM   #2
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Gruesome indeed.
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Old 29-11-2011, 08:01 PM   #3
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Animating the silliness of "pain signals" which 'tell' the brain about pain results in a more attractive myth to propagate .

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Old 29-11-2011, 08:16 PM   #4
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My back started to hurt just watching the animation.
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Old 30-11-2011, 10:29 AM   #5
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Hands up, I am that facebook friend!
First time here. This should probably go in the intros section, but hi all! I'm Aoibhean, a physio working in a small town in Ireland.

About this animation: this was posted on my university discussion board by one of the other students - we're studying for an MSc in Pain Management from Uni of Edinburgh. Part of the reason why I find this so horrifying is because - get this - we all spent six full weeks in September/October reading about, talking about, and generally waffling on about; the biopsychosocial model.

The fact that someone posted this after all that biopsychosocialism (followed by a few weeks of peripheral, spinal and brain mechanisms of pain) and thought it was a really great and helpful animation, just gives me... well... the shivers.

Here's a link to Moseley doing his very funny "popping spine" thing. Think he sums up the problem with this animation quite nicely.

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Old 30-11-2011, 10:40 AM   #6
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Aoibhean,

Dia dhuit.

Please feel welcome to post an introduction of yourself in the welcome thread. You have posted an excellent example from Lorimer. There is much more around here if you post a few more times and lots of resources.

Go raibh maith agat.

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Thanks a mil Karen,
Wasn't expecting to receive an Irish welcome, I'm impressed
Lovely to use this site; it is a terrific resource. Should have posted here ages ago but it's one of those things I've just "gotten around to". Looking forward to participating.
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Welcome. We've no hope of changing things other than through the faculty such as yourself.

Glad to have you here.
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Welcome Aoibhean, good to see another critical mind.
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For those interested in the new name here there's this.
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Barrett- Oh no! Don't do that. It's bad enough to have a name that looks like a collection of fridge magnets exploded (as a friend of my mom's once memorably said), without having its slightly cringey meaning known to all.
Having said that, thanks so much to you and Bas for the lovely welcomes.
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Lovely to use this site; it is a terrific resource.
You're now granted to read a bit more.
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Old 30-11-2011, 02:23 PM   #13
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Hi Aoibhean,
(Pretty funny, the fridge magnet explosion allusion. )
Here is a live link to the Welcome forum - it's a bit redundant at this point, but if you would start a thread there, it's appreciated as it helps us keep all the new arrivals straight.
So pleased you could make it to SS - welcome.
I look forward to hearing how your training goes.

Karen, you are a polymath in languages and so much other stuff!
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Thanks for that Bernard. Had a little moment of excitement-overwhelm there when I saw the "bit more" of available reading. Seems this site is going to provide an opportunity to improve not only my physio skills, but also my French.
Diane, thanks for nudging me to the site. Half of me is pleased to be here, and the other half is displeased with myself for not getting here sooner!
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Hi Aoibhean

and welcome were you at Lorimer Moseley's lecture in Dublin in June?.

I'm with Kory on the effect of those animations - horrible - and teh only "hope" is big scary needles that get heated up to stuff your nerves in aaaahhhhhhhh

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Hard to believe the 2 physicians on that site had any experience in Psychiatry. Apparently the mind was just a passive receptical for everything back in the 70's and 80's. I wonder if they have picked up a neuroscience book in the last decade
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Andy, "aaaaaaahhhhhh" is the word! Yes I was at that lecture; the CPSEM study day. It was very fun partly because I think it wasn't quite what most people were expecting. Presumably you were there too? I also saw him in Dublin with the "NOIsters" last year in April; were you there?

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