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Old 13-03-2012, 05:56 PM   #1
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Just watched this and thought I would share. If it has already been posted, I apologize.

The author does touch on plasticity and glial cells.

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http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/ell...onic_pain.html
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Old 13-03-2012, 06:08 PM   #2
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Diane always get these ones it seems. If you are unsure just use the search.

But it caught my attention again
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Some good info there from Dr. Krane, but I hope he's not successful in convincing his colleagues and the public that pain is a "disease" and that better drugs are the answer.

I think that would be a step backwards.
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Some good info there from Dr. Krane, but I hope he's not successful in convincing his colleagues and the public that pain is a "disease" and that better drugs are the answer.

I think that would be a step backwards.
Hi John

I understand where you are coming form and I agree with your stance on disease. However I for one would welcome better drugs whilst also noting that they are not the answerbut may be part of the answer

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I assumed it was on here already but don't always have time during the work day to search. He does mention PT and OT but I thought he might have gotten into the treatment. Maybe utilizing the mirror
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ANdy,
I'm distrustful of biomedicine, but I'm not anti-pharmaceutical drug by any stretch. I look forward to biomedical research uncovering pharmaceutical methods of ameliorating the suffering and perhaps enhancing the recovery of certain patients where the stress/neuroimmune system has become so chaotic that they have become a walking jug of toxic chemistry.

However, the word "disease" for doctors is code for "our turf, back off".

I think the last 4 or 5 decades of their miserable record in treating persistent pain obviates their right to make that turf claim.

Pain is not a disease, yet, and we shouldn't let it become one.
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no argument from on disease John, just some hair splitting on the pharmaceutical aspect

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I find the contrast between the effectiveness of pain relief in acute pain with its ineffectiveness in helping manage chronic pain a really useful lever to open the cracks in the sandstone (or more realistically the sand castles). If paracetamol, tramadol, MST work so well for a broken bone or sprain or headach why not on your pain here? The chronic pain experience is different, works on different pathways, in different places. This is evidence from their own experience and it makes them think where those places may be. That leads on to how we access them and effect change.
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I agree with not describing it as a disease. We talk about not catastrophizing our explanations of what is going on and calling chronic pain a disease may increase pain by itself.
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