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LeighPP · 24-03-2007, 08:58 PM

Hello, everyone. I am brand new to this discussion site. I was searching for some information on how the body holds in emotional trauma and ended up here with you. I am a grief specialist in private practice and I am always interested in new therapies or concepts dealing with the mind-body connection.

Jon Newman · 24-03-2007, 09:33 PM

Hello LeighPP,

Welcome. Feel free to start a thread on whatever your interests are.

What is the nature of being a grief specialist? Wasn't there a grief specialist on the show Crossing Jordan? Is that sort of what it is like?

**Diane** · 24-03-2007, 09:37 PM

Welcome LeighPP. This is mostly a physical therapy site, but some of us think overlap of emotional and physical domains exists in pain science, that we should be more physical therapists/ less physical therapists, and have learned to see our patients through a bio-psycho-social lens.

The components of the pain "neuromatrix" seem to hold pain patterns of all sorts, be they of emotional or physical pain. The insular cortex is a good place to start for (physical at least) "pain", in that it's such an integrator of visceral and somatic and cutaneous interoception, forms "opinions" based on previous experience, has huge feed from the "limbic" system, and some governance over autonomic outflow. There are all those other bits, the amygdala, cingulate gyrus, etc..

One of the contributors would likely be glad to take this up with - his name is Ian. This whole crossover domain is one of his favorite topics.

. We have a forum here dedicated to him, called Consciousness Corner. Enjoy.

**nari** · 25-03-2007, 03:23 AM

Welcome, Leigh.

I have always been interested in the fact that some people with persisting chronic pain are in a grieving state because of the loss of their former selves, their social identity and general wellbeing.
Look forward to your thoughts.

Nari

lloyd · 25-03-2007, 11:17 AM

Dear Leigh,
As you can see I have two young sons. I am regularly visited by thoughts of their loss and the immensity of that. Which takes me to the fragility of this life and the tremendous amounts of suffering that surround us.So respect and gratitude to you for your work.
May deep love and blessing be with you

Lloyd

ian s · 25-03-2007, 12:04 PM

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...r_posture.html

this may be interesting to you -- i do have the pdf of the study somewhere!

I think we mostly sit on the x roads between psych and soma and have to merge unless we choose to ignore the pain and psycholgical literature completely .
There is loads to recommend --somatic markers /mirror neurons the website by Charlton a Uk Psychiatrist who translates Damasio's somatic marker hypotheis which i think is very important .
With a some insight from the nuts and bolts of neurology many of the traditional 'healing ' approaches make sense and can be demystified --kabat zinns work is recommend and i am going to my local buddhist group to learn this at the moment !
I have been looking at the Illness narratives by Kleinman who writes exceptionally well ...For myself i am interested in merging the wisdom of the humanities with the exciting material from neurology - I think there is a fairly new book by Rossi a hypnotherapist on this topic which may be of interest .

ian

**Diane** · 25-03-2007, 11:20 PM

Ian (who is a PT by the way) has asked me to post a few of the articles he thinks pertain to this thread: People Watchers Can't Ignore Body Language,
and pdfs attached.
Thanks Ian, these look great.

24-03-2007, 08:58 PM	#1
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Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,677 Thanks: 1,490 Thanked 3,198 Times in 1,571 Posts	Welcome LeighPP. This is mostly a physical therapy site, but some of us think overlap of emotional and physical domains exists in pain science, that we should be more physical therapists/ less physical therapists, and have learned to see our patients through a bio-psycho-social lens. The components of the pain "neuromatrix" seem to hold pain patterns of all sorts, be they of emotional or physical pain. The insular cortex is a good place to start for (physical at least) "pain", in that it's such an integrator of visceral and somatic and cutaneous interoception, forms "opinions" based on previous experience, has huge feed from the "limbic" system, and some governance over autonomic outflow. There are all those other bits, the amygdala, cingulate gyrus, etc.. One of the contributors would likely be glad to take this up with - his name is Ian. This whole crossover domain is one of his favorite topics. . We have a forum here dedicated to him, called Consciousness Corner. Enjoy. __________________ Diane www.dermoneuromodulation.com SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy HumanAntiGravitySuit blog Neurotonics PT Teamblog Diane Jacobs.com (personal website) Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters) Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page @PainPhysiosCan WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook @WCPTPTPN Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page @dfjpt SomaSimple on Facebook @somasimple "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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nari NeuroNut Evangelist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ACT Aust Posts: 7,682 Thanks: 707 Thanked 234 Times in 168 Posts	Welcome, Leigh. I have always been interested in the fact that some people with persisting chronic pain are in a grieving state because of the loss of their former selves, their social identity and general wellbeing. Look forward to your thoughts. Nari

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lloyd Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: buckfastleigh devon uk Age: 47 Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dear Leigh, As you can see I have two young sons. I am regularly visited by thoughts of their loss and the immensity of that. Which takes me to the fragility of this life and the tremendous amounts of suffering that surround us.So respect and gratitude to you for your work. May deep love and blessing be with you Lloyd

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ian s Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: dunblane , scotland uk Age: 50 Posts: 745 Thanks: 290 Thanked 231 Times in 100 Posts	http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...r_posture.html this may be interesting to you -- i do have the pdf of the study somewhere! I think we mostly sit on the x roads between psych and soma and have to merge unless we choose to ignore the pain and psycholgical literature completely . There is loads to recommend --somatic markers /mirror neurons the website by Charlton a Uk Psychiatrist who translates Damasio's somatic marker hypotheis which i think is very important . With a some insight from the nuts and bolts of neurology many of the traditional 'healing ' approaches make sense and can be demystified --kabat zinns work is recommend and i am going to my local buddhist group to learn this at the moment ! I have been looking at the Illness narratives by Kleinman who writes exceptionally well ...For myself i am interested in merging the wisdom of the humanities with the exciting material from neurology - I think there is a fairly new book by Rossi a hypnotherapist on this topic which may be of interest . ian