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I can't figure out why I never started a Wind Rose thread for Mo's blog, Neurophilosophy, before today - I certainly love to point out his blogposts. Well, it's never too late..
This post is a very nice one, pointing out 6 dogmas about the nervous system that have been destroyed by new waves of science. The dogmas that are gone are: Quote:
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Great post. I can't help but wonder if quote 3 referring to the glial cells and ectoderm / skin connection might be a major player in explaining the mechanism of how simple contact can stimulate ideomotion. |
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Mo has a new post - link to a new book by the same name, Welcome to Your Brain. Great video embedded in the post about an hour long, featuring the authors. A woman in the audience asks, "What is a headache?" The answer involves a definition of pain, which is stated by one of the authors, "the brain responding to skin and skull."
I think I might send for that book.
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GREAT post this morning from Mo at Neurophilosophy about Wilder Penfield and his work, an in depth description of Penfield's development of the S1M1 cortical map we all know and love, i.e., sensory and motor homunculi).
Wilder Penfield, Neural Cartographer. Lots of links at the bottom to old posts. Good paragraph or two about glia and brain scars.
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Check out one of Mo's latest posts, Memories are made of molecular motors.
Even at the level of a synapse in the hippocampus, some little contractile element is necessary to open and close gates. Some bits of excerpts and stray thoughts beg to be included under a PT hypothesis of some kind some day. Quote:
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2008 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.Current Biology, Volume 18, Issue 22, R1047-R1048, 25 November 2008 doi:10.1016/j.cub.2008.09.031 Correspondence Visual distortion of a limb modulates the pain and swelling evoked by movement G. Lorimer Moseley1, 2,![]() ![]() , Timothy J. Parsons1 and Charles Spence31 Department of Physiology, Anatomy & Genetics, University of Oxford, UK 2 Prince of Wales Medical Research Institute, Sydney, Australia 3 Crossmodal Research Laboratory, Department of Experimental Psychology, University of Oxford, UK Summary The feeling that our body is ours, and is constantly there, is a fundamental aspect of self-awareness [[1]]. Although it is often taken for granted, our physical self-awareness, or body image, is disrupted in many clinical conditions [[2]] (see also [[3]] for a list of such conditions). One common disturbance of body image, in which one limb feels bigger than it really is, can also be induced in healthy volunteers by using local anaesthesia or cutaneous stimulation [[4]]. Here we report that, in patients with chronic hand pain, magnifying their view of their own limb during movement significantly increases the pain and swelling evoked by movement. By contrast, minifying their view of the limb significantly decreases the pain and swelling evoked by movement. These results show a top-down effect of body image on body tissues, thus demonstrating that the link between body image and the tissues is bi-directional. 1: Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2008 Sep 2;105(35):13169-73. Epub 2008 Aug 25. Psychologically induced cooling of a specific body part caused by the illusory ownership of an artificial counterpart. Moseley GL, Olthof N, Venema A, Don S, Wijers M, Gallace A, Spence C. Department of Physiology, Anatomy and Genetics, Oxford University, Oxford OX1 3QX, United Kingdom. lorimer.moseley@medsci.ox.ac.uk The sense of body ownership represents a fundamental aspect of our self-awareness, but is disrupted in many neurological, psychiatric, and psychological conditions that are also characterized by disruption of skin temperature regulation, sometimes in a single limb. We hypothesized that skin temperature in a specific limb could be disrupted by psychologically disrupting the sense of ownership of that limb. In six separate experiments, and by using an established protocol to induce the rubber hand illusion, we demonstrate that skin temperature of the real hand decreases when we take ownership of an artificial counterpart. The decrease in skin temperature is limb-specific: it does not occur in the unstimulated hand, nor in the ipsilateral foot. The effect is not evoked by tactile or visual input per se, nor by simultaneous tactile and visual input per se, nor by a shift in attention toward the experimental side or limb. In fact, taking ownership of an artificial hand slows tactile processing of information from the real hand, which is also observed in patients who demonstrate body disownership after stroke. These findings of psychologically induced limb-specific disruption of temperature regulation provide the first evidence that: taking ownership of an artificial body part has consequences for the real body part; that the awareness of our physical self and the physiological regulation of self are closely linked in a top-down manner; and that cognitive processes that disrupt the sense of body ownership may in turn disrupt temperature regulation in numerous states characterized by both. Latest L. Moseley papers. |
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Today's post from Mo is called Tactile-emotion synesthesia, and describes a paper Ramachandran and co-author David Brang have recently published, by the same name. Thank you for that informative post, Mo.
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Mo writes about Lorimer in Scientific American.
Here's his own blogpost about it, Disowning Pain with Binoculars. Thanks for being interested in pain perception, Mo. ![]()
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Check out How we perceive others influences our sense of touch. (I.e., our sense of being touched.)
Thank you Mo. Here's another along the same theme but from a different angle.
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Mo has a recent blogpost about the evolution of the nervous system. Jon recently posted a few links to another blog, on the topic, but I cannot find his post. Jon, what thread was it?
Anyway, here's Mo's post. Evolutionary origins of the nervous system.
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Thank you Jon. Analogue axon. AK's Ramblings. Check.
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