thoughts on processes and outcomes.

**nari** · 03-05-2005, 08:50 AM

I have just spent the day at a workshop thingy on policy development.

What struck me during the day was the happy readiness with which the various disciplines accepted that the process is the Thing.
Nothing in practice works without a hard look at developing the process from the original identifiable need or idea right down to the outcome/s and evaluation.

I thought: Why do physiotherapists have such a hard time looking at physiological processes in clinical practice? Why is it different? (to them)
Sure, there is inflammation process, and healing physiology, but the major process, the integration of all systems (all systems go!) in the event of an injury/event, seems to be overlooked.

If we can be non-Cartesian in boring stuff like policies and procedures development......why not with physiotherapy?

Then I wondered about the careful delineation of disciplines; not treading on toes of other professionals, OTs do this, social workers do that, etc and there, I think, is the answer.

(day dreaming in workshops can be risky - we were asked to do something and I had no idea what it was)

What do others think?

nari

**Diane** · 03-05-2005, 02:55 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I think you might be getting yourself ready to retire!

I also think you have developed kaleidoscopic perspective on this issue.

In every walk of life (not just ours) it becomes apparent (at least to me) that there are the ones who see through the veil; the others see only the veil, not what's behind it, and limit themselves accordingly as if it were a concrete wall. I think this mistake continues to be made by many otherwise smart and certainly innocent people, because of how sensitive our nervous systems are! Sometimes (in certain mental activities where rigor is required) it's OK to be a total butthead!

People in meetings are especially blind to the wall being just a mere veil. Then every little facet of the interaction takes on concrete weight... it's socially induced illusion. (Can you tell I'm not much for meetings?)

That's my take...
Diane

03-05-2005, 08:50 AM	#1
nari NeuroNut Evangelist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ACT Aust Posts: 7,683 Thanks: 707 Thanked 234 Times in 168 Posts	thoughts on processes and outcomes. I have just spent the day at a workshop thingy on policy development. What struck me during the day was the happy readiness with which the various disciplines accepted that the process is the Thing. Nothing in practice works without a hard look at developing the process from the original identifiable need or idea right down to the outcome/s and evaluation. I thought: Why do physiotherapists have such a hard time looking at physiological processes in clinical practice? Why is it different? (to them) Sure, there is inflammation process, and healing physiology, but the major process, the integration of all systems (all systems go!) in the event of an injury/event, seems to be overlooked. If we can be non-Cartesian in boring stuff like policies and procedures development......why not with physiotherapy? Then I wondered about the careful delineation of disciplines; not treading on toes of other professionals, OTs do this, social workers do that, etc and there, I think, is the answer. (day dreaming in workshops can be risky - we were asked to do something and I had no idea what it was) What do others think? nari

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03-05-2005, 02:55 PM	#2
Diane Human Primate Social Groomer and Neuroelastician Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Weyburn Sask. Posts: 19,677 Thanks: 1,492 Thanked 3,198 Times in 1,571 Posts	:lol: :lol: :lol: I think you might be getting yourself ready to retire! I also think you have developed kaleidoscopic perspective on this issue. In every walk of life (not just ours) it becomes apparent (at least to me) that there are the ones who see through the veil; the others see only the veil, not what's behind it, and limit themselves accordingly as if it were a concrete wall. I think this mistake continues to be made by many otherwise smart and certainly innocent people, because of how sensitive our nervous systems are! Sometimes (in certain mental activities where rigor is required) it's OK to be a total butthead! People in meetings are especially blind to the wall being just a mere veil. Then every little facet of the interaction takes on concrete weight... it's socially induced illusion. (Can you tell I'm not much for meetings?) That's my take... Diane